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	<title>Comments on: Susanna Harwood Rubin: Writing as Ritual</title>
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		<title>By: Eloise Ames</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eloise Ames]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, my name&#039;s Christine and I am currently in my final year studying for my Fine Art (BA) Hons Degree in the UK.  I am from London and live in Cheddar and recently came over to New Brunswick to see the Art=Text=Art exhibition as I am writing about text within art for my thesis.  For my 2nd year show I typed out overheard conversations and printed them onto acetate then hung the columns from the ceiling, it was the repetitiveness of typing out the words that interested me.  I always listened to jazz (mostly Coltrane) and it was together with the beat and the clicking of typing that would put me in a meditative state - a little like when I&#039;m running to hear my trainers hit the pavement so I can concentrate on something. Anyway just wanted to add something to this discussion and just a quick thank you to everyone who has posted words, it&#039;s really helped me and my thesis along!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, my name&#8217;s Christine and I am currently in my final year studying for my Fine Art (BA) Hons Degree in the UK.  I am from London and live in Cheddar and recently came over to New Brunswick to see the Art=Text=Art exhibition as I am writing about text within art for my thesis.  For my 2nd year show I typed out overheard conversations and printed them onto acetate then hung the columns from the ceiling, it was the repetitiveness of typing out the words that interested me.  I always listened to jazz (mostly Coltrane) and it was together with the beat and the clicking of typing that would put me in a meditative state &#8211; a little like when I&#8217;m running to hear my trainers hit the pavement so I can concentrate on something. Anyway just wanted to add something to this discussion and just a quick thank you to everyone who has posted words, it&#8217;s really helped me and my thesis along!</p>
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		<title>By: Eloise Ames</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s. the thread had to come from my daughter&#039;s facebook page as I don&#039;t belong to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. the thread had to come from my daughter&#8217;s facebook page as I don&#8217;t belong to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanna Harwood Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susanna Harwood Rubin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree absolutely. I have known Elena&#039;s work for years and always loved it. The way she uses both language and materials has always felt very ritualistic to me - the repetition, the single-minded focus on a subject matter, the combination of a highly personal subject matter with a number of repetitive  techniques such as typing (tap-tap-tap) &amp; sewing stitch after stitch. It is a fine line between meditative and obsessive, and sometimes they merge to become one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree absolutely. I have known Elena&#8217;s work for years and always loved it. The way she uses both language and materials has always felt very ritualistic to me &#8211; the repetition, the single-minded focus on a subject matter, the combination of a highly personal subject matter with a number of repetitive  techniques such as typing (tap-tap-tap) &amp; sewing stitch after stitch. It is a fine line between meditative and obsessive, and sometimes they merge to become one.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanna Harwood Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susanna Harwood Rubin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had no idea the Hunter S. Thompson re-typed The Great Gatsby. Amazing! I am also making an association (slightly different, but connected) between Daou&#039;s work and the work of monks who created masterpieces of calligraphy such as the Book of Kells. It is not the same, but another layer added onto the conversation of writing as ritual. Additionally, drawing Hindu Yantras can involve mantra recitation. While what is being draws looks like geometric abstraction, Yantras are actually maps of consciousness and modes of meditation. So the sounds are spoken as the lines are drawn. In the end, similar.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea the Hunter S. Thompson re-typed The Great Gatsby. Amazing! I am also making an association (slightly different, but connected) between Daou&#8217;s work and the work of monks who created masterpieces of calligraphy such as the Book of Kells. It is not the same, but another layer added onto the conversation of writing as ritual. Additionally, drawing Hindu Yantras can involve mantra recitation. While what is being draws looks like geometric abstraction, Yantras are actually maps of consciousness and modes of meditation. So the sounds are spoken as the lines are drawn. In the end, similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Langston</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff, I really like how you said that when you do &quot;automatic&quot; writing, something unconscious surfaces. I suppose that&#039;s part of the point of ritual or meditation (although maybe those terms are loaded). It&#039;s almost a bit scary, yeah? That somehow something inside of your brain knows something that &quot;you&quot; don&#039;t and comes out when you&#039;re giving your hand permission to write without hesitation. I&#039;ve had experiences similar to yours but, when I think about it consciously, it sort of creeps me out! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I really like how you said that when you do &#8220;automatic&#8221; writing, something unconscious surfaces. I suppose that&#8217;s part of the point of ritual or meditation (although maybe those terms are loaded). It&#8217;s almost a bit scary, yeah? That somehow something inside of your brain knows something that &#8220;you&#8221; don&#8217;t and comes out when you&#8217;re giving your hand permission to write without hesitation. I&#8217;ve had experiences similar to yours but, when I think about it consciously, it sort of creeps me out! </p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Langston</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Langston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With Elena Del Rivero, the repetition of &quot;No,&quot; &quot;No,&quot; &quot;No,&quot; &quot;No,&quot; seems very ritualistic. Like when you say a word out loud over and over, the meaning of the word sort of drops away and, as the letters seem more and more arbitrary, the word becomes more musical. I suppose the same goes for writing a single word over and over. Over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over. Doing just a bit of that (which is kind of fun and soothing) makes me feel as though the word also gains more power somehow, like I&#039;m falling into the word. 

But Daou seems to have a different meditation going on. She&#039;s copying and translating. Writing it by hand seems like a ritual but it also reminds me of how Hunter S. Thompson re-typed the entirety of the Great Gatsby because he wanted to learn how to write like Fitzgerald. It&#039;s like by rewriting it by hand, something of the original process will be absorbed almost by osmosis. It&#039;s as though through the ritural of rewriting, you can get into the mindset of the person who originally wrote the words. You&#039;re taking the words into your body and making the same gestures that created them in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Elena Del Rivero, the repetition of &#8220;No,&#8221; &#8220;No,&#8221; &#8220;No,&#8221; &#8220;No,&#8221; seems very ritualistic. Like when you say a word out loud over and over, the meaning of the word sort of drops away and, as the letters seem more and more arbitrary, the word becomes more musical. I suppose the same goes for writing a single word over and over. Over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over over. Doing just a bit of that (which is kind of fun and soothing) makes me feel as though the word also gains more power somehow, like I&#8217;m falling into the word. </p>
<p>But Daou seems to have a different meditation going on. She&#8217;s copying and translating. Writing it by hand seems like a ritual but it also reminds me of how Hunter S. Thompson re-typed the entirety of the Great Gatsby because he wanted to learn how to write like Fitzgerald. It&#8217;s like by rewriting it by hand, something of the original process will be absorbed almost by osmosis. It&#8217;s as though through the ritural of rewriting, you can get into the mindset of the person who originally wrote the words. You&#8217;re taking the words into your body and making the same gestures that created them in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanna Harwood Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susanna Harwood Rubin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the way you define ritual versus an exercise or a meditation. The practice I was describing above was actually a decision to write every day for X amount of time, so for me fell into the ritual category. It was about this THING that I did regardless of the results, but with hoped for results...like brushing my teeth, or something of that sort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way you define ritual versus an exercise or a meditation. The practice I was describing above was actually a decision to write every day for X amount of time, so for me fell into the ritual category. It was about this THING that I did regardless of the results, but with hoped for results&#8230;like brushing my teeth, or something of that sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Hendrickson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Hendrickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susanna - I often write a question or a challenge down in my notebook, and then start writing without stopping, editing, or worrying about what&#039;s coming out.  This sometimes brings up feelings I don&#039;t want to admit to owning and seeing those seems to give me a clearer path forward.

I guess this is meditation that produces meaning for me.  I don&#039;t think its ritual because to me, ritual is something with a schedule attached - an ongoing practice that occurs regularly, rather than sporadically or because I &quot;need&quot; to do it.  And honestly, ritual is tough for me.  I&#039;ve tried to make a &quot;ritual&quot; of journaling but it&#039;s never stuck.  I suppose I&#039;ve yet to learn how to attach meaning to that process in a way that&#039;s important to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susanna &#8211; I often write a question or a challenge down in my notebook, and then start writing without stopping, editing, or worrying about what&#8217;s coming out.  This sometimes brings up feelings I don&#8217;t want to admit to owning and seeing those seems to give me a clearer path forward.</p>
<p>I guess this is meditation that produces meaning for me.  I don&#8217;t think its ritual because to me, ritual is something with a schedule attached &#8211; an ongoing practice that occurs regularly, rather than sporadically or because I &#8220;need&#8221; to do it.  And honestly, ritual is tough for me.  I&#8217;ve tried to make a &#8220;ritual&#8221; of journaling but it&#8217;s never stuck.  I suppose I&#8217;ve yet to learn how to attach meaning to that process in a way that&#8217;s important to me.</p>
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